tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6970502759702586204.post2105214468978651218..comments2024-03-25T03:59:31.089+00:00Comments on Behind The Barred Window: A Day (An Hour) in the Sun: Discipline in PVCToyntanenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01964511433148028640noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6970502759702586204.post-73076440988766433252014-06-09T12:45:37.509+01:002014-06-09T12:45:37.509+01:00The most obvious question that comes to mind, Vlad...The most obvious question that comes to mind, Vlad, is this: If relief comes in the form of an intervention provided by a member of staff or another patient, is it truely what we are talking about when we use the term 'masturbation', i.e the 'solitory vice'? Of course the outcome might be the very opposite of 'relief' - but that is a different matter.<br /><br />The the Victorians found the question of the control of masturbation a vexed one, leading to many imaginative and novel inovations. One of these was the clitoris cage you speak of, a small thimble-shaped silver or plaitnum wire basket-weave structure that was sutured in place over the offending 'pleasure bud' to keep temptation at bay from overly curious, probing fingers. How successful this was is open to debate as, although it would make climax dificult (though not entirely impossible in some individuals) it would not remove the urges and motivations ('motivation 'used here in its psycological / behavoural context) brought about by raging youthful hormones nor would the device block arousal or the pleasurable sensations that come hand-in-hand with arousal - which is what unwittingly made the clitoris cage such a devilish little thing. And one must remember that the tiny bud we commonly refer to as the clitoris is actualy only a minor portion of that ring of sensitive, nerve-rich tissue which goes to make up that organ - quite literaly the tip of the iceburg! But those Victorians were concerned for the most part in curtailing the habit through fear of what they perceived as 'weak mindedness' and 'mental aboration', not bringing it under control in such a manner as to use it to rule over an individual.<br /><br />Masturbation, by its nature, is a very private thing and - especialy in the female - still a largely taboo subject that few would want to discuss openly. Supervised masturbation - other than in barely-plausable fiction - would therefore be difficult to bring about in such a way as the subject would become sufficiently aroused to aproach climax and would be deeply and damagingly humiliating for the individual concerned. But under certain circumstances wouldn't that latter factor in itself make such a stipulation desirable.<br /><br />The question becomes, how to bring about the above situation in a shy, bookish - yet exceedingly well developed and pretty young thing from a sheltered background? How does one - perhaps seruptiously, subliminaly almost - encourage the habit to come about or develop into the kind of addicitive status whereupon its denial might lead to her surrendering her self esteem and self restpect to the point of masturbating or attempting to masturbate in front of witnesess? In psychological terms, how does one increase the behavoural motivation to the point whereupon the subject's discrimination as regards the desired stimulation is reduced to such an extent that all normal tabboos or feelings of revulsion are defeated? Something to chew over.<br /><br />Meanwhile. What of the other questions I posed? And anybody out there can join in. All invited - the more ideas / critisisms / points of view the better!<br /><br />Toyntanenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01964511433148028640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6970502759702586204.post-58632884858829591562014-06-09T01:01:04.624+01:002014-06-09T01:01:04.624+01:00I think controlling masturbation is direction with...I think controlling masturbation is direction with exploring. At a minimum you could have a regime in which masturbation is forbidden except during mandatory supervised sessions, or even add on the requirement that it be done by staff member or another patient. Alternatively just make it frustrating, use one of those grommets or cages from Institutionalized and allow or even encourage masturbation, secure in the knowledge that the subject will remain frustrated.Vladnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6970502759702586204.post-6636171515945539912014-06-07T18:49:34.091+01:002014-06-07T18:49:34.091+01:00The question is: What would YOU do about it? Does...The question is: What would YOU do about it? Does - or should - the way the matter is viewed, its seriousness, depend on the scenario / situation - whether domestic or institutional or something not so clear cut, a kidnapping or hostage taking perhaps (since that has featured here recently)? <br /><br />If an institutional scenario, does the nature of the institution have any bearing on what might be aceptable in terms of behaviour and the measures taken to curtail or control it? Might the response of a church-run industrial school or 'home for the spirital improvement and moral protection of wayward young women' be different to the official line taken by a small privately owned and run secure psychiatric unit or the medical centre of a secluded, discrete reformatory? Does the nature of the institution affect the range and deapth of the options open to them? And if so, in which way - whether physical or psychological or some combination of both? <br /><br />Thinking along those lines - how does the deliniation between the domestic and institutional situation affect the definition of what constitutes a physical<br />or psychological intervention? Can there be a situation that might blur the boundries between the domestic and the institutional and how might that affect the attitude taken and any intervention that might be put in place?<br /><br />In either situation, what bearing might the gender of the disciplinarian have on either the way the habit is viewed or the way it is dealt with?<br /><br />And finaly: Should the habit always be curtailed entirely, or might there be advantages in regulating and controling it? Could it indeed be turned in to a punishment or a disciplinary tool in some manner? To that end: can you think of a situation in which the habit might be tolerated or even encouraged? If so, how might control be exercised, in what form, or should it be allowed 'ad libitum' (hope that is right - no spell check available on this device)<br />Toyntanenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01964511433148028640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6970502759702586204.post-76602345280710207152014-06-06T12:53:02.860+01:002014-06-06T12:53:02.860+01:00Welcome back, absolutly agree there sould be zero ...Welcome back, absolutly agree there sould be zero tolerance of female masturbation! Hope to hear more about its treatment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6970502759702586204.post-71996423813634007462014-06-06T11:02:47.062+01:002014-06-06T11:02:47.062+01:00Hi Vlad!
Actually, I had to post your comment mys...Hi Vlad!<br /><br />Actually, I had to post your comment myself. It came through on my email as a posted comment but hadn't appeared here for some reason, I don't know why. It just happens sometimes.<br /><br />The knee still has a long way to go, so I can't be quite as active as I'd like but I don't want to get in to any long-term writing projects either, as I am working with Roger Benson on an art project of his and trying to put more energy in to promoting what I have done thus far. <br /><br />So this morning for instance I have spent about an hour and a half trying to create a page on the spanking art wiki for Garth Toyntanen - to no avail; what a waste of time! (Anyone know how to do it?)<br /><br />These sort of vignette things I have been creating of late really started out as captions on pictures I have re-bloged to my Tumblr blog from other folk's blogs. Every now and then I take a look and if something takes my fancy it sometimes inspires an idea - and sometimes it leads on a little longer than a caption! At other times I might add a little something by way of a photoshop-style manip to help things on the way.<br /><br />I'm glad you like it, though. And that you tell me about it. That's what it is all about! Feedback!<br />Toyntanenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01964511433148028640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6970502759702586204.post-85541701707597483342014-06-06T10:46:25.695+01:002014-06-06T10:46:25.695+01:00Wow, two posts in as many days. It looks like you ...Wow, two posts in as many days. It looks like you are returning to form as well as health. <br /><br />I like where this is going, with all the corselettes and plastic in a sort of miniature version of Institutionalized. <br /><br />VladAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com